DealMinded / Starting out with the Nokia 770

Jeff · 2007-06-30 12:14:49

First, let's talk peripherals.

If you haven't yet, I'd highly recommend buying one of these reduced size MMC cards, so you can boot from MMC and have plenty of space for data. This will also give you an easy way to revert to the untouched system.

1 gig
2 gig

You may also want to purchase a bluetooth GPS unit (I have instructions on this below):

Garmin GPS10 (sensor only) @ 118.62 shipped, the Deluo GPS @ 112.72 shipped, or the Deluo GPS with DVD @ 114.76. I've heard good things about both of these, but for your own peace of mind, as they are somewhat expensive (although about the lowest prices you'll find for this quality) buying from Amazon makes returns relatively painless. If you want a cheaper option, Geeks.com has some great prices on two units.

And if you want to connect USB devices to the 770, like a keyboard or storage device (external drive, memory stick, etc), follow my directions here.

On to the software

The information that was here has been replaced with a guide I'm writing (as I advance through using the 770); any feedback would be appreciated:

http://examplified.net/guide/Nokia_770/

sporky · 2007-07-02 07:38:59

Cool, thanks for this guide. I'm a Linux newbie that just got my hands on a 770 and need someone to walk me through some of the basics. Please keep up the effort and continue to add to your guide!

Jeff · 2007-07-02 08:04:44

sporky wrote:
Cool, thanks for this guide. I'm a Linux newbie that just got my hands on a 770 and need someone to walk me through some of the basics. Please keep up the effort and continue to add to your guide!

Will do. Anything you want to see, in particular?

mieltem · 2007-07-02 12:02:40

"Go to the Application Manager Menu, then Tools/Application Catalog.... Click New, then enter:"

When I got to the application manager, it has "Catalog" as a heading under which are two buttons "install new applications " and "check for updates" - I cannot find the 'New' interface where you enter the 'web address', etc.

what should I do differently?

Jeff · 2007-07-02 12:50:47

mieltem wrote:
"Go to the Application Manager Menu, then Tools/Application Catalog.... Click New, then enter:"

When I got to the application manager, it has "Catalog" as a heading under which are two buttons "install new applications " and "check for updates" - I cannot find the 'New' interface where you enter the 'web address', etc.

what should I do differently?

Ah, it's in the menu (just updated the post). So, when you're in Application Manager, if you click the menu button (or the down arrow near the title), you'll see Package, View, Tools, Close. Select "Tools" then "Application Catalog..."

Let me know if that helps.

mieltem · 2007-07-02 13:46:09

I feel so silly - I figured it out before I saw your post. But now I have another problem the becomeroot file doesnt install completely - it is a 2.2MB size under new applications. I looked at the details after the partial install - it says its broken. Im stuck.

Jeff · 2007-07-02 15:23:34

mieltem wrote:
Im stuck.

Let's get you unstuck then. First, did you try going to "Show installed applications" in Application Manager and uninstalling it? Does it list as "Installed"? It should be 2kb. I'm on AIM/Google/Yahoo as "DealMinded", if you need real-time help.

mieltem · 2007-07-03 08:00:46

It did show in the installed applications - but as a partial install, the blocks were red. Since it showed, I went to the Xterm window and tried the 'sudo gainroot.' It didnt work it said to go into RD mode for it to work.

I then uninstalled. It prompts that it is unable to uninstall, however becomeroot does not show as an installed application now. So looks like it uninstalled.

I then refreshed package list again. Tried to install, but it again does the same thing.

Jeff · 2007-07-03 08:47:58

mieltem wrote:
I then refreshed package list again. Tried to install, but it again does the same thing.

Try, apt-get install becomeroot

I think you need to be root for this to work though.

The easiest thing to do would be to reflash and start again - it would probably take less time.

mieltem · 2007-07-03 10:30:41

How do you reflash?
Thanks.

sporky · 2007-07-04 05:34:01

Jeff,
How about a newbie (aka Plain English) guide to installing IT2007 Hacker Addition and IT2006 on the same unit?

Jeff · 2007-07-04 09:10:03

mieltem wrote:
How do you reflash?
Thanks.

Reflashing is at the beginning of the software section of this article.

Jeff · 2007-07-04 09:10:43

sporky wrote:
Jeff,
How about a newbie (aka Plain English) guide to installing IT2007 Hacker Addition and IT2006 on the same unit?

Sure, I've been meaning to install IT2007, anyway. I'll post back here when I'm done.

sporky · 2007-07-05 16:26:08

Got another request for ya....how about a guide to configuring RealVNC and VNC Viewer? The RealVNC website doesn't do too well at providing step-by-step info on how to use the service.

Jeff · 2007-07-05 19:10:03

sporky wrote:
Got another request for ya....how about a guide to configuring RealVNC and VNC Viewer? The RealVNC website doesn't do too well at providing step-by-step info on how to use the service.

You mind throwing me a link? Just got a booting from MMC tutorial done. If you're interested, this is another one of my sites I'm working on. The newest stuff is there:

http://examplified.net/guide/Nokia_770/

I'm working on inline feedback at the moment, but you can leave me any messages about it here.

sporky · 2007-07-05 19:18:04

www.realvnc.com. RealVNC seems to be the VNC program of choice at internettablettalk.com. Saw your tutorial on installing SSH...pairing that with RealVNC would be a great mix to make the connection secure

Mattmilw · 2007-07-06 05:53:39

I'm trying to partion my new 2gb card so that I can boot from it. I'm following http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howt...from_mmc_card/ I can get to root, but when I type # apt-get install e2fsprogs, it says e2fsprogs and a couple other files can't be authenticated. I said yes to install without verification, but I get a 404 not found for several files.

I am very much a novice at this, and haven't a clue what to do from here. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeff · 2007-07-06 08:43:41

Mattmilw wrote:
I'm trying to partion my new 2gb card so that I can boot from it. I'm following http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howt...from_mmc_card/ I can get to root, but when I type # apt-get install e2fsprogs, it says e2fsprogs and a couple other files can't be authenticated.

I had the same problem. It seems the "mistral" repository is being made obsolete. Check out a page I'm testing:

http://examplified.net/guide/Nokia_770/ … _from_MMC/

mieltem · 2007-07-06 10:31:15

Jeff wrote:
mieltem wrote:
How do you reflash?
Thanks.
Reflashing is at the beginning of the software section of this article.

Thanks. I figured out that the rootstrap 'gregale' works better than the old 'mistral'.

Mattmilw · 2007-07-06 17:49:09

Jeff wrote:
Mattmilw wrote:
I'm trying to partion my new 2gb card so that I can boot from it. I'm following http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howt...from_mmc_card/ I can get to root, but when I type # apt-get install e2fsprogs, it says e2fsprogs and a couple other files can't be authenticated.
I had the same problem. It seems the "mistral" repository is being made obsolete. Check out a page I'm testing:

http://examplified.net/guide/Nokia_770/ … _from_MMC/

I appreciate your help with this. I have now progressed to:

/dev/mmcblk0p1: 1,15000,6
/dev/mmcblk0p2: 15001,,
/dev/mmcblk0p3:
/dev/mmcblk0p4:

It is giving a warning that no primary partition is marked bootable. This does not matter for LILO but the DOS MBR will not boot this disk. Do you want to write this to disk? (YNQ) Not sure what to do here. Thanks again.

saabin · 2007-07-06 18:49:25

MMC boot procedure: Everything went smothly till I got to the

tar-temp/bin/tar cf - -C /floppy . | /tar-temp/bin/tar xvf - -C /opt

command. It started copying & scrolling so I left it alone and came back about 15 min. later. Now it's stuck on:

./usr/share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/osso-contact-plugin.mo

It's been on this line for over 30 min now.

Now what? I followed all the other instructions exactly. I have a 2 GB card.

Jeff · 2007-07-06 21:14:57

saabin wrote:
MMC boot procedure: Everything went smothly till I got to the

tar-temp/bin/tar cf - -C /floppy . | /tar-temp/bin/tar xvf - -C /opt

command. It started copying & scrolling so I left it alone and came back about 15 min. later. Now it's stuck on:

./usr/share/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/osso-contact-plugin.mo

It's been on this line for over 30 min now.

Now what? I followed all the other instructions exactly. I have a 2 GB card.

OK, you'll need to erase everything on the 2nd partition and the tar pipe again.

So, type (becareful with this one!!):

rm -rf /dev/mmcblk0p2/*

Then:

/tar-temp/bin/tar cf - -C /floppy . | /tar-temp/bin/tar xvf - -C /opt

and continue on.

Make sure you have all of your applications closed. Do you have the language of your 770 set as German, by chance?

Mattmilw · 2007-07-07 09:56:15

I followed the directions for Booting from MMC. I don't remember what happened after the copying command (/tar-temp/bin/tar cf - -C /floppy . | /tar-temp/bin/tar xvf - -C /opt), but I was back at the # prompt in a second or two. I did the umount(s) and rebooted. I got a boot menu with four choices. Two of them were for MMC2 or MMC3. It would not boot from either, so I booted from flash, which it did fine. Now, I no longer get the boot menu. When I go into Control Panel and memory and it shows 466,1MB available.

I'm not sure where I'm at. What do you recommend I try next?

Thanks.

Mattmilw · 2007-07-07 11:25:37

Well, apparently I was typing the copy command incorrectly. I copy/pasted it and it copied. I can now boot from the card. I can't say anything appears to happen any faster, but I'm glad I tried to do it. Thus is all very new to me, and this was a nice way to start playing with this device.

Thanks.

Jeff · 2007-07-08 08:19:40

Mattmilw wrote:
Well, apparently I was typing the copy command incorrectly. I copy/pasted it and it copied. I can now boot from the card. I can't say anything appears to happen any faster, but I'm glad I tried to do it. Thus is all very new to me, and this was a nice way to start playing with this device.
Thanks.

Good to hear; let me know if you do anything else fun on the 770 or need help with something.

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